What to expect from a Film Course at Ravensbourne University

August 22, 2019 0 By Stanley Isaacs


– Lollipop scene one,
take one, shot seven. – Hi, I’m Dasha from QS, and here with us, today, we’ve got Rebecca. Tell us a little bit about yourself. – So, I’ve just graduated university. I did three years, a three year course for digital film
production, at Ravensbourne, which is quite a small
university in London. And now that I’ve graduated, it’s just trying to find
work, ’cause I freelance. – The usual challenge that
I’m sure every graduate faces. Where was the university based, for those that don’t know
where Ravensbourne is. – So it’s based in London, and
specifically, in Greenwich, so it’s literally right
opposed the O2 Arena, if you know where that is. – Of course, who doesn’t? I think it’s somewhere in
this shot, actually, isn’t it? I think it’s right behind
us, yeah, so that’s the O2. Was it a creative university, essentially, of arts and–? – Very much so. It’s specifically for creative subjects, so there’s fashion, there’s architecture, there’s film, there’s TV,
there’s a lot of creative things, which makes it such a nice environment, because everyone’s doing
the same sort of thing, and they really encourage you to work with different people
in different courses. So my second year, we had a specific unit, where you had to work with other courses to create a project,
which was really cool, ’cause you meet new people, as well. – Of course, so you have sort of lots of essentially transferrable
skills, etc, alongside your film skills, as well. – Yeah, definitely. We got to work with the composing group, and I learnt a bit of how to compose, which was kinda cool. So yeah, it was good. – Amazing. And what made you want to go into film? What was kind of, apart
from the obvious reasons? That it’s probably the
coolest job you could have. – It’s cool, but it’s also a lot of work. My dad actually does, in fact, he does this sort of thing, like
interviews, and stuff, with another university. – Is he famous? – No. – We will be, though, don’t worry. Sorry, dad. – But yeah, he works at
St. George’s University, in London, and does a
lot of filming there. And so I’ve kind of always grown up around cameras, and stuff, and then, I actually wanted to be
an actress, originally, and then I realized that– – So did I. – It’s not the way I want to go, so then I realized behind
camera is what I want to do. – Okay. When did that change happen? – So I did my college, so I went to the BRIT school, as well, where I did acting, and then
I was a bit confused as to what I wanted to do, because they kind of told us about university, but there were no other, there weren’t really other options that
they kinda mentioned. It was university or nothing, or work. – [Dasha] Or good luck. – [Rebecca] Yeah, and so I
kind of took the year out. I went and worked with my dad in the media department at St. George’s, and then I was like,
actually, I really enjoy this. I was editing for them. I was editing their
projects, alongside doing my own YouTube channel,
so I was learning loads of different skills at
once, and I was like, this year’s kind of taught me a lot about editing, and camera work, and stuff, so then I decided to apply to university. – So it kind of just fell into place, quite naturally, I suppose. So how old were you when you
started your YouTube channel? – Well, the first channel I have is 12 years old, in September. – Wow, and you’re 16. – 22. Yeah, so it’s long, but
the channel that I made– – So when you were 10 years old? Sorry, that took me a very
long time to work out. – So yeah, that’s long, but I don’t use that channel anymore, so the channel that I use now is about
four and a half years. So yeah. – So solid following, solid build. Okay, so filming is obviously sort of something that requires
a lot of experience, and I suppose contacts, etc. Why did you decide to actually
go to university for that, and not pursue a different route? – So I know people who chose not to go to university, and still work in the film industry, whereas I decided to go to university, because I felt like I hadn’t done a media course, before, so I wanted to learn a lot more. And it also made me realize that I didn’t want to go into editing, and I actually really do
well as a producer role, so all the organizing of the film. So it made me realize, actually, what I wanted to do, which is good. – That’s such a success story, to really kind of explore
the different options. So you started with actress, and then you realized, actually,
it’s behind the camera, but then, not just behind the camera, but specifically producing. – Yeah, it was really good. And with the course at
Ravensbourne, as well, it’s very practical, and they encourage you to do all different roles within film. So we got to direct, produce, camera work, edit, art department, everything, so it’s really good
opportunity to get from it. – [Dasha] So specifically, the course, and the fact that they sort of pushed you to try different things that has made you realize that producing was for you? – Yeah, definitely. I went there with the
intention of being an editor, and I soon realized that editing, like YouTube videos, and
stuff that I was used to, with working with my dad,
was completely different to editing short films. I was like, actually, maybe not, and producing was what I wanted to do. – Amazing. And so now you’ve graduated a year ago? Is that right?
– No, this year. – Oh, just now? Congratulations. – Thank you.
– What’s now? Do you have any idea, have
you been applying to things? How are you feeling? – It’s daunting. It’s very daunting. It’s hard, because also, the industry is very busy, and everyone’s
trying to get work, and I’ve been lucky enough to kind of accidentally fall into jobs, through, actually, my flatmates, and friends. So a production assistant
for a creative agency in London, and they’ve
offered me work today, which is great, so I’ve got
three jobs lined up, now. – Three jobs? As in, they’re all three
different jobs, or–? – Yeah, three different shoots, yeah. So it’s getting there. It’s just–
– That’s really, really, really impressive. Guys, if you don’t have
three jobs lined up from the day you graduate, that’s okay. – Like I said, I fell into it, really, by accident, but I’ve also been applying for a lot of other stuff
that I haven’t got, so it’s all just about
trying to get your foot in. And then once people work with you, they’ve asked me back–
– They trust you. – They’ve asked me back several times, so it’s been good to work with them. – Okay, so you’ve found
that connections are sort of more effective than
kind of the formal applying to jobs, and trying to knock on the door. – Yeah, definitely. And Ravensbourne, that was
one of the first things they kind of said, they’re like, make your connections, ’cause
they’re the people, when you talk to them, if you work with them at least once, chances are they’re gonna get you more
work, which happened to me. – Which is true. – Yeah. – Well, if you’re good, obviously. Which you are. – I hope. – So do you feel that university’s really played a role in kind of helping you secure this job that you have now, or do you feel that it was kind of more your own achievement. How hard did you have
to get involved in that? – The tutors on the course were really helpful in that sense. They kind of always pushed us to take on work, if we didn’t
have specific lectures at a time, and we were offered work. They always told us to go and take it, ’cause it’s obviously gonna
lead to more work, hopefully. So they were very, what’s the word? – Encouraging. – Yes, encouraging of everyone working, and getting jobs, so yeah. – And getting paid. – Yes. – Were there a lot of unpaid internships, actually, that you had to do? ‘Cause I think there’s a bit of a reputation for that, isn’t there? – Yeah, I did a few things for free, which, they were good experiences, and it gave me good connections. I’m trying to think, have I had paid work from anyone, that I’ve done for free? – I’m not sure. – Interesting, so maybe it’s not worth it. – Yeah, sometimes. We were always told
that, at a certain point, you have to start charging, because you can’t always work for free, of course. – [Dasha] Time is money, after all. That’s what I say to everyone. – And especially in TV and
film, people are always like, oh, it’s the experience
that’s gonna help you, and you’re like, yes, but
I also need to be paid. – Yeah, and so I’ve got rent to pay. If you were to give any advice to sort of students and
applicants, out there, especially those interested in film, or sort of pursuing creative
jobs, what would it be? How do they get to the point that you’re in, right now, which
is comfortable, and lovely, and you’ve obviously got an
exciting future ahead of you? – I think it’s, just be
yourself, and work hard. My course was very practical, so although we didn’t have any tests, or anything, we were always busy
making films, and working. So it wasn’t like a university
where you kinda had time off. Even in the holidays, we
were out making films. – Which is contrary to
what most students think universities are about, right? – So it was, just work hard,
and you should be fine. – Okay, so you’re saying fill the time that you have with useful things. So if you’ve got a free week, do something about it, don’t just
wait for things to happen. – Yes, definitely don’t just
wait for things to happen. I have regretted not taking opportunities in the past, so definitely
take anything that you can. – Do you have an example
you can share with us? – Lemme think. – Take your time. – Yeah. Off the top of my head, I
can’t think of anything, but I know I– – Was it a job, or something? – Just like– – Or a project that someone’s offered? – At Ravensbourne they bring in a lot of guests to guest speak,
and do guest lectures, and stuff, and a lot of the time I was busy doing something else, and I kinda wished I’d had the time to go to them, ’cause obviously, it would be talking to
people in the industry, and hopefully getting networking, and potentially even jobs from them. So I kind of missed that,
which is kind of sad, but I was doing other things. – [Dasha] So you wish you
freed up a little bit more time to kind of connect with– – [Rebecca] Yeah, finding
the balance, I think, works. – [Dasha] Okay, and
just letting yourself do what you want, I guess, right? Sometimes just doing what
you’re interested in. – [Rebecca] Definitely. Do what you enjoy, and it
doesn’t feel like work. – Okay, great, well thank
you so much, Rebecca, and all the best, in your future. – Thank you. – ‘Cause filmmaking is difficult, people. – [Rebecca and Friend] Bye!