US leaders debate appropriate response to Iranian aggression

US leaders debate appropriate response to Iranian aggression

August 15, 2019 100 By Stanley Isaacs


WHITE HOUSE BRIEFING WITH TOP LAWMAKERS UNDER ADMINISTRATION OFFICIALS LATE TODAY? LET’S DISCUSS IT WITH CALIFORNIA DEMOCRAT, CONGRESSMAN JOHN GARAMENDI, WHO SITS ON THE HOUSE ARMED SERVICES COMMITTEE, AND TENNESSEE REPUBLICAN MARK GREEN, ALSO IN AFGHANISTAN AND IRAQ WAR VETERAN. GENTLEMEN, WELCOME TO YOU BOTH.>>GOOD TO BE HERE.>>Shannon: WANT TO PLAY SOME BECAUSE SENATE MINORITY LEADER, CHUCK SCHUMER, HAD TO SAY TODAY.>>THE PRESIDENT MAY NOT INTEND TO GO TO WAR HERE, BUT WE ARE WORRIED THAT HE AND THE ADMINISTRATION MAY BUBBLE INTO A WAR.>>Shannon: CONGRESSMAN, WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THAT ASSESSMENT?>>I THINK IT’S UNFORTUNATE THAT THAT IS THE POSITION THEY ARE TAKING. I THINK THAT WE CLEARLY NEED A MEASURED RESPONSE HERE. I THINK THE WORLD NEEDS TO SEE, HONESTLY, SMOKE AND FIRE. I THINK KIM JONG UN NEEDS TO SEE SMOKE AND FIRE. THERE’S BEEN AN ATTACK ON THE U.S. MILITARY, AND IF WE DON’T RESPOND, WE ARE INCENTIVIZING FUTURE ATTACKS. I THINK IT’S TIME TO ASK ACT I THINK IT’S TIME TO ASK AC.>>Shannon: WHAT YOU MAKE OF THAT, CONGRESSMAN GARAMENDI. YOU HEAR WHAT YOUR CONDUCT ON MY COUNTERPART SAYS ABOUT THIS IDEA COUNTERPART SAYS ABOUT THIS IDET COUNTERPART SAYS ABOUT THIS IDEA COUNTERPART SAYS ABOUT THIS IDET COUNTERPART SAYS ABOUT THIS IDEI COUNTERPART SAYS ABOUT THIS IDEF COUNTERPART SAYS ABOUT THIS IDEW COUNTERPART SAYS ABOUT THIS IDEE DON’T RESPOND IN SOME WAY, THAT OTHERS AROUND THE GLOBE MAY THINK THEY CAN GET AWAY WITH THIS KIND OF THING.>>WE CERTAINLY HAVE TO RESPOND. THE QUESTION IS, WHAT WOULD BE THE APPROPRIATE RESPONSE? AND WHAT IS THE ROLE OF CONGRESS AND THAT RESPONSE? WE ARE CLEARLY IN A SITUATION WHERE IT COULD BE A WAR, ANY KINETIC ACTION AGAINST IRAN WOULD BE AN ACT OF WAR. NOW THEY MAY HAVE STARTED IT, BUT NOW YOU ARE IN THAT SITUATION THAT IS REQUIRED CONGRESSIONAL INVOLVEMENT IN THE PROCESS.>>Shannon: BOTH FEEL THAT WAY, THERE IS A CONGRESSIONAL AUTHORIZATION?>>I CERTAINLY DO.>>I DON’T. I THINK THE WAR. SOCCER IS PRETTY CLEARLY, WHEN AN ATTACK HAPPENS AGAINST THE US AN ATTACK HAPPENS AGAINST THE U. AN ATTACK HAPPENS AGAINST THE UM AN ATTACK HAPPENS AGAINST THE UL AN ATTACK HAPPENS AGAINST THE UT AN ATTACK HAPPENS AGAINST THE UR AN ATTACK HAPPENS AGAINST THE U, AN ATTACK HAPPENS AGAINST THE UT AN ATTACK HAPPENS AGAINST THE UE AN ATTACK HAPPENS AGAINST THE UB AN ATTACK HAPPENS AGAINST THE UL AN ATTACK HAPPENS AGAINST THE US AN ATTACK HAPPENS AGAINST THE UY AN ATTACK HAPPENS AGAINST THE US THAT IT CAN RESPOND WITHOUT COMING TO CONGRESS. IT’S BECAUSE THAT IS A DEFENSIVE RESPONSE. THE DEFENSIVE ISSUE IS PAST. IT’S BEEN A DAY, DAY AND HAVE SINCE THE DRONE WAS SHOT DOWN. WE ARE NOW INTO A NORMAL, ANY WAR IS NORMAL, A RESPONSE TO AN ACTION. THIS WOULD REQUIRE, IN OUR VIEW, AND AUTHORIZATION BY CONGRESS, AND WOULD BE WISE FOR THE PRESIDENT TO SEEK THAT BECAUSE THAT WOULD HAVE THE SUPPORT OF THE CONGRESS AND WE DO REPRESENT THE ENTIRE AMERICAN REPUBLICAN.>>Shannon: I’M ASSUMING THE TWO OF YOU HAVE INFORMATION I DON’T HAVE. ARE YOU CONVINCED THAT IT WAS SHOT DOWN BY IRAN? IT WAS IN INTERNATIONAL WATERS, NOT AN IRANIAN AIRSPACE? DO YOU AGREE ON THAT?>>THE APPROPRIATE CRITERIA, IT WAS A SHOT DOWN BY IRAN. A RESPONSE IS NECESSARY. IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE IMMEDIATE. IT HAS TO BE A RESPONSE. WHETHER IT’S A KINETIC RESPONSE OR SOME OTHER TYPE OF RESPONSE, THERE IS TIME TO DO THAT, AND IT’S ALSO TIME TO RALLY OUR ALLIES. WE SHOULD NOT BE IN A SITUATION ALONE HERE, CLEARLY, IRAN ATTACK, IS THAT AN ACT OF WAR? I WOULD SAY CERTAINLY RISES TO THAT LEVEL. HOW DO WE RESPOND TO THAT? THAT IS TIME, TAKE A DEEP BREATH, THINK IT THROUGH, RALLY OUR ALLIES, GET THE WORLD BEHIND US.>>LET’S GIVE PRESIDENT TRUMP SOME CREDIT. HE’S HAD A VERY MEASURED RESPONSE HERE. HE EVEN GAVE THEM AN OUT WITH POTENTIALLY IT WAS A TRIGGER-HAPPY GUY, SO THE PRESIDENT IS DOING THIS VERY MEASURED RESPONSE, AND I THINK IT IS CLEARLY WITHIN HIS AUTHORITY TO RESPOND.>>Shannon: LET ME PLAY SOMETHING ELSE FROM SENATOR GRAHAM TALKING ABOUT WHERE THERE IS AN “REDLINE.” HERE’S WHAT HE SAID.>>MY RED LINE IS IF THERE IS ANY MORE DISRUPTION OF SHIPPING IN THE STRAIT OF HORMUZ LINKED TO IRAN, TAKE OUT THEIR NAVY, BOMB THEIR REFINERIES, ANYMORE ATTACK ON AMERICAN INTEREST, GO AFTER THE RADIANCE SO THEY WILL FEEL PAIN.>>Shannon: THAT WAS YESTERDAY. RESPONSE FROM YOU BOTH, STARTING WITH YOU, CONGRESSMAN GREENE.>>CLEARLY THAT IS A RESPONSE. THAT IS A CLEAR WAR, NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. IS THAT A MEASURED RESPONSE? I THINK NOT. AS I SAID EARLIER, A RESPONSE IS APPROPRIATE. THEY COULD COME IN MANY DIFFERENT FORMS. CERTAINLY, THE SANCTIONS ARE IN PLACE, IS THAT ENOUGH? PROBABLY NOT. ARE THERE OTHER THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE, MEASURED SOMEWHAT EQUAL? ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE — IT SHOULD BE ON THE TABLE, AND AS I SAID, HE SHOULD COME TO CONGRESS AND SAY, HERE IS WHAT HAPPENED, HERE IS HOW SHOULD WE SHO HERE IS HOW SHOULD WE SHL HERE IS HOW SHOULD WE SHD HERE IS HOW SHOULD WE SHB HERE IS HOW SHOULD WE SHE RESPONDING TO THAT.>>Shannon: LET ME QUICKLY READ, I WILL READ A TWEET THAT COMES FROM A COLLEAGUE OF YOURS, CONGRESSWOMAN ALANO MARCO MY DEMOCRAT FRESHMAN. SHE SAYS “JUST AS IN IRAQ, ADDRESS AGGRESSORS ARE USING ILLEGITIMATE. TACT TO DRUM THE BEATS OF WAR. THE MEDIA IS TAKING THESE CLAIMS AT FACE VALUE. CHILDREN WILL DIE, AND THE WORLD WILL BE LESS SAFE, NO WAR WITH IRAN.” FINAL WORD TO YOU AS A VETERAN OF THE IRAQ WAR.>>SPEAKER PELOSI ACKNOWLEDGED TODAY IN THE PRESS THAT THIS WAS AN INTERNATIONAL WATERS, AND THE INTERNATIONAL AIRSPACE, AND ATTACK IN OUR MILITARY. WE HAVE TO RESPOND. IF WE DON’T RESPOND, WE ARE PUTTING OUR MEN AND WOMEN WHO ARE IN UNIFORM IN THAT THEATER RIGHT NOW AT RISK FOR YOU THERE WILL BE MORE ATTACKS. WE HAVE TO RESPOND, PERIOD.