Undeclared at Le Moyne College? Talk to Us!

Undeclared at Le Moyne College? Talk to Us!

August 15, 2019 0 By Stanley Isaacs


hello everyone and welcome to our
broadcast about being undeclared at lemoyne. my name is Mary shad and I am
the advisor for first-year student transition at lemoyne college, and so
what I do is I work with all new first-year students I helped coordinate
first-year student orientation I also serve as an undeclared advisor to a
cohort of undeclared students and I also assist with academic support and today I
am joined by one of our fellow students hi my name is Diana kospi I am a senior
at molloy college I’m a communications major now and I came in undeclared.
alright so what we were hoping to do today is kind of give you an opportunity
to ask us questions if there’s anything you want to know about being undeclared
we can kind of share some information about undeclared as a major here at Le Moyne
to start and sort of players experience as an undeclared student how she came
about choosing her major. but we’re hoping there’s a live chat feature so
you guys can ask us questions and we’re hoping just to answer your questions so
if there’s anything you want to know about being undeclared um what that
experience is like that’s really what we’re here for. but we can start off and
talk a little bit about being undeclared. the best thing you should know I think
about being undeclared is that it’s okay to be undeclared. I can’t tell you how
many students I meet with that think they come in and they want to know, okay
I want to major in this, and then two months later they completely changed our
minds and that’s okay you we like that we want to help you we’re here to help
you in academic advising and support figure out your path and where you want
to go in life and being undeclared is a good start into the way to do that. so
what I’m going to do is I’m going to take you through what it’s like being
undeclared as an accepted student at lemoyne. so Le Moyne we have two
parts for new Student Orientation we have our summer welcome and darkfall
arrival so some are welcome takes place in June and that’s a one-day event where
you would come to campus and you would do a lot of you’re taking care of
business. so for example summer welcome you’re going to meet with an advisor who
specializes in working with undeclared students. you’re going to learn more
about potential majors at Le Moyne you’re going to discuss your potential
fall schedule and then one that you’re also going to learn about tools from
career advising and developments so tools that can help you to figure out
okay I’m undeclared where do I see myself going. do you remember anything
about your summer welcome or meeting with your advisor. yeah I do remember
a little bit um you know they assigned us to a certain counselor to help us
through our journey um we met with them and talked a little bit about what our
first year was going to be like. what to expect; um what kinds of things they
would be able to help us there for, um you know the resources that were
available for us as a undeclared student, and how our experience would be just the
same as anybody else who came in. you know with a declared major pretty much
.yeah absolutely so being undeclared, it’s not it’s not a bad thing like I said it
really isn’t and the whole point of working with your advisor and all of
these steps but you’ll take to figure out your major is to decide okay this is
where I see myself in the future this is where I see my job or my career .so we
really work with you to do that so it’s not a scary thing so what’s over welcome
your meeting with an advisor the first time you’re learning a little bit about
what it’s like to be undeclared but then at fall arrival you’re really moving into
a more deeper experience talking with your advisor about okay these are the
courses that I want to take this is what I see myself potentially doing how can
we figure out if this is the right path for me .so fall arrival, that’s
where you’re going to meet your assigned academic advisor. so out lemoyne advisors
are assigned by major so as undeclared students since it’s not technically
major you will need to declare a major before you graduate you will be assigned
an undeclared advisor. so that’s someone like myself, other people, support staff
in my office that work with students that are undeclared so you’ll also
confirm your course schedule at that time the good thing about being
undeclared is the wine has the core curriculum and that allows you to take a
lot of core courses in the beginning. I know Claire transferred in a lot of
courses but she also started when the core the new course started here at the
Moines so do you remember your first semester what you took it all or. I do
remember a little bit of what I took because I transferred in with a good amount
of credits, I have the flexibility to keep up with my core classes while
exploring what I might want to study while here at le Moyne. so I took a
philosophy class because um freshman art and other grades are required to take a
certain amount of philosophy courses, um I believe that i took an anthropology
course because I’d always been interested in that um and that actually
translated later to my anthropology minor that I declared because I enjoyed
a lot of the classes I took ya .so yeah I tried to keep up with my core classes
really because, you want to remember that even though you’re undeclared and you
have the ability to explore what you want to take,you still need to keep up
with the classes that are going to need to be required for graduation .yeah so it
gives you a good opportunity to take a wide array of subjects during your first
semester your second semester to kind of see okay this is something that I’m
interested in or this is something that I’m actually good at and I’m surprised
by that so that might be something that turns into a potential major on the road.
did you think, you said we were interested in anthropology was it really
like a defining moment when you do that I had thought about when I went to
college um majoring in communications which is not my major but you know I
wasn’t really sure is this all right thing for me am I going to want to stick
with it um should I declare it what happens if I go in and I change my mind
so I decided to go in undeclared and I’d also generally had an interest in
different cultures and anthropology and it’s I really wanted to see what that
was like because I hadn’t really had the chance in high school to take anything
like that so I took an anthropology course um I decided to stick with it and
I said I actually decided that would be my minor before I figured out what my
major it would be so. it was definitely great to be able to have that
flexibility to figure out what I wanted to do and take classes that an interest
in me. okay so going back to fall arrival so you’re meeting with your advisor you
are confirming your fall class schedule you’re also going to be talking about
your advising colliqiua. so that is something that lemoyne does every
first-year student takes it advising course their first semester at lemoyne.
so you’re advising colloquia or a.d.b would ADB undeclared .so that is a course it’s
not credit course where you are going to be
meeting with an advisor and there will be about four to six sessions where you
will go in as a group as a cohort so you will have other undeclared students in
your cohort and you will be going over resources. things such as own app which
is an online portal where you do job searches. you can learn about majors so
be going over that you learn lady huddle formulator resume you’ll have guest
speakers that come in and talk to you about different majors but it’s really
more of an exploratory of course for undeclared students. like I said every
student does have an Adb but undeclared we really in that time we really focus
on okay how are we going to help you figure out what your major is and what
your practice there’s a lot of major discernment and career discernment that
takes place during ADb. so that’s something that you would be taking first
semester and I’ll talk a little bit more about that in a second. but the other
thing you’re going to be doing if I well it’s getting to know those classmates
that are going to be with at adb really, starting to form connections with
them. so going off of that do you remember your career advising class. I do
actually I was very lucky to go into my advising class on the first day I have
this girl sit next to me and just introduced herself and I was like oh, so
you know we’re talking about you know what brought us Le Moyne and what we
were interested in why we were there she was actually trying to get into the
nursing program so she had a little butter idea of what she wanted to do. but
um she’s actually still one of my best friends here at mine and she was
probably the first person I met there so yeah it gives you a chance to really
meet people connect with people who are in the same boat as you are. and I think
a lot of times when people are considering going in an undecided or
don’t know you know what that will entail I think the worry is well I’m not
part of a major program of study so I’m not going to be able meet people i’m not
going to have the normal college experience but it’s really not that at
all um you can connect with people and meet people just as well and it actually
gives you i would say, awider range of connections with people because you know
the people in your advising seminar you never know what their interests
are going to be or what they’re looking for and their college so yeah really is
a great opportunity. that’s a great point in that being on the clarity it gives
you a lot of advantages because if you’re interested in anthropology you
might talk to a press room social sciences or you might take anthropology
101 and get sort of taste of what that’s like so it really adds undeclared
advisors we really encourage you to reach out to other students other
faculty members other staff members to really say okay this is what I’m
thinking how do I get here or let me bak some ideas off of you about my major or
where I see myself. so I’m going to talk a little bit now about the advising
colloquia. but before i do that i just want to remind you guys use the live
chat we’re here to answer your questions so if you have any questions about being
a declared at Le Moyne feel free to slugs awesome and we can see that and we will
be happy to address them. alright moving forward a little bit so this AdD
class that I’m talking about like I said it’s a non-credit of course that focuses
on two things self-awareness and planning so with self-awareness we
really focus on undeclared students and helping you to realize your values and
your interest that is super important because when you’re thinking long-term
about a career, you want to be in a field and a major that will get you into a
career whether it’s something you’re passionate about .so that’s one of the
most important things I think your interests your personality your values
all that comes into play when you’re picking a major so why don’t you want to
talk a little bit about I ended up in communications yeah so um like I said
earlier but for those who may have tuned in recently I have thought about to play
on communications when I came to college um I knew that I enjoyed writing in and
journalism and I was passionate about connecting the people on communicating
with people and networking with people and so it seemed to be a good fit and
something I could be good at but I just you know I think I have that worry that
everybody has that will am I going to what am I going to do with my life where
do I go from here so I decided to come and undeclared and and i ended up
declaring my sophomore year i believe you have to declare by the end of your
sophomore year is that correct yeah ideally you will have to declare your
sophomore year yeah so I declared during my sophomore year um that I was actually
gonna go with communications um and I think it just ended up being the right
fit with me because I got the chance to experience communications classes at
lemoyne and see exactly what that would entail. um Le Moynes communication
department has some great faculty and great students um they try to support
you in any way possible and give you a lot of hands-on experience which is
something I liked you know you not always just sitting in the classroom you
could be in the maclab on computers learning photoshop software and all that
stuff and that was valuable to me because I got a real taste for where
this major could take me and what i could do with it um it wasn’t just
theoretical to me anymore you know I had an idea of what it could do for man I
ended up enjoying it as much as I thought I would. that’s great so a lot
of that comes from discovering your strength discovering what you’re good at
so in that self-awareness stage we’re looking at your academic strengths but
we’re also helping you identify resources that are available to you if
your face challenges because well it’s great to be undeclared it also can be
extremely difficult narrowing it down so you come in and you’re undeclared and
you can say oh we have over 30 majors here so you’re trying to narrow that
down and that can be overwhelming so we want to identify resources not only
other staff members but online resources assessments that you can use to really
gain a greater understanding of your interests and where those could
potentially take you major wise and it’s also more about discernment so the
engagement principle of discernment is something that we practice where we’re
really focusing on helping you to figure out where you want to be who you want to
be. so as a declared student it is extremely valuable to work with your
advisor and throughout your Abd class to really learn to understand more about
yourself and that’s really what we’re just serving is we’re going through the
process of figuring out you and what is good for you what doesn’t work
for you and where you’re going to end up so that’s the self-awareness side on the
other side there’s planning so that’s where we’re narrowing your major is down
based on interests we’re also talking about minors and concentration so claire
has an anthrapology minor she’s a communications major, so there’s lots of
options for you to say okay this is something that I’m interested in maybe
not major but I could tag it on as a minor and we definitely encourage
students to do that something you’re interested in and passionate about and
you’re able to fit that into your course schedule absolutely and we also have
some double majors that you can do and always at a minor and a lot of our
majors also have concentrations that you can select well in addition to that
we’re planning for future coursework. so we’re looking at okay this is what
you’re taking your first semester on your first year in the fall but what are
you going to be taking next year where is this going to take you because we
want you to stay on track in order to graduate I’m also going to research
career opportunities so with that planning phase it’s a lot of research
because you need to know okay I can major in philosophy but what is someone
do that major in philosophy what does that set you up for where do
you see yourself going do you think that your communications class has helped you
figure out your career goals gear yeah definitely I think I found out what I
was good at and I also found out what I enjoyed that I thought I want to enjoy
um I think that when I thought about going into communications I’d always
pictured myself as like a journalism concentration the communications program
at lemoyne no longer has concentrations because they want you to be fully
capable to handle all kinds of communication situations and be able to
work in a variety of fields within communications which i think is very
valuable but I figured out that though I had never thought of graphic design is
something I would want to do i found that i’ve really enjoyed working with
that software and the creative side it and the creative opportunities that gave
to me so i think it was definitely a bit called actually taking some classes
before deciding what i wanted to do for sure yeah is that what you want to do
in school .um I’m not entirely sure I think like I said the
communications department is great because I’ve gotten all these
experiences in a lot of different feels so it makes it a little hard to narrow
down for me personally I just because I angle so much but so interesting but I
definitely would love to find some kind of career that incorporates both writing
because I enjoy that and some kind of creative side. so for me this
would most likely mean some kind of social media option or online
publication so hit see a lot of options .yeah so another component the final
component i’ll talk about in regards to abd. so your first year advising course
for undeclared students is my college plan so what my college plan is it’s a
living document that’s really going to help you discern your personal values
your career and academic interests and your abilities. so I saw we had a
question come in so I’m just going to finish talking about the super quick
then we will be right there Deana but thank you for your question though
anyone elses questions feel free to give them right to us. okay so quickly my
college plan so that is where you’re focusing on five different areas. so you
are looking at personal reflection, you’re looking at your values, you’re
looking at your coursework, and another area is education outside of the
classroom, so that is important because you can do study abroad opportunities
you can do service-learning opportunities so much of college is
going to class and academics but there is also education that you can receive
outside of the classroom. we really encourage that Le Moyne and really
want you to take part in that this one undeclared student too I think that’s
very helpful in figuring out what you’re passionate about or what interests you
have you like and then life beyond the wine so obviously you have a plan for
after graduation whether you’re going to continue on and do graduate studies or
you are going to go right into the workforce so you have lots of options
there so my college plan like I said it’s a living document this is going to
change over time and you have the opportunity to go back and review it
work with your advisor to fill it out but it is a really good option for you
to utilize during your first year advising course. so I’m going to take a
look at our question here so Diana says “you mentioned having a concentration in
a major how do majors with concentrations differ from basic majors”.
so for example i will pick biology so if you are a biology major there are
different concentrations you can have within a biology major so typically that
might be a few setup sets of courses that differ based on the concentration
so for example one biology concentration is Health Professions so that program is
tailored a little differently because health professions it’s sort of gearing
towards graduate work a lot of times health questions you need an upper level
degree so you would need to go on to get your masters or doctorate so there’s a
few courses that a regular plain biology major not might not take but a health
professions concentration would take so it’s different from a basic major and
that’s a little bit more tailored another thing is business so we do have
a general business administration major but then you’re picking your
concentration of finance or marketing more analytics so business in and of
itself it’s there’s a core for business but then analytics students are going to
take courses that differ from finance students. so I hope that makes sense let
me know if it doesn’t but basically the best way I can say it is
that it’s an umbrella in your major and then and not all majors have
concentrations I always a good example of business it’s a good example but it’s
a big umbrellas your major and then you’re narrowing it down a teeny bit
when you’re focusing on a concentration I think it helps if you have kind of a
specific interest in something within the field so for example if you were a
sociology major and you really enjoy anthropology like me you could declare
and anthropology concentration so you’re earning your bachelor’s degree in
sociology but it’s also tailored to your interest in the anthropology and get
more experience in that field. so it gives you a little more individualized
um yeah a really nice yes I think and I think it’s really good to once you have
figured out okay I do want to be a biology major and I am interested in one
day being a doctor or being in the operating room so you’re knowing okay
Health Professions is a better path for me to take so I
that is the benefit of having a concentration right. one other thing I
wanted to touch on about being an undeclared student is the option to join
a learning community so learning communities anywhere. no I was not I was
just yeah. so yeah so it is a community really designed for students that is
specific to a major so for example for undeclared we have our choice learning
community so it is a learning community where you are housed in the same area
you are in a designated advising colloquia section so that a TV that I mentioned
earlier you’re in a section with same group of students you’re also enrolled
in a shared course so that same group of students in your Abd is also going to be
in your history 110 force so and you’re also living right near in them as well.
so it’s really a great opportunity for students to get to know one another on a
deeper level to have a strong cohort of people to go to where you’re in class
with these students and you’re seeing them on a more regular basis. there’s
also tutoring support involved with learning communities and you’re able to
participate in learning community programs that the learning community
coordinator puts on so it might be going out to dinner and once a month or it
might be going apple picking or you might be doing some service projects but
learning communities are really a great way for students to get involved and
even if you end up declaring a major there are learning communities you have
nine learning communities that cover a bunch of different majors but it is a
good opportunity for undeclared students because it’s it’s called choice life is
about choices and we are helping you to make a choice in okay this is what my
major is going to be and you’re going to get there and it might not be even in
the first week it might not be first semester but we’re going to work with
you to get you there so that’s all I got to cover on this you have anything you
want to add no I don’t think so I do think the learning communities are a
great way to find a network of students you know I think it goes back to that
worry again that we have that undeclared students kind of won’t fit
in we won’t have an niche like a lot of the other communities or majors and
that’s definitely a good way to create that little support net um to make
lemoyne your homeboy from home absolutely so you guys have any
questions for us once again I’m Mary and I work in advising I also work with
first-year students so I work a lot with orientation so I’m here to help player
is also here we can definitely get in touch with her also. but really I think
the biggest takeaway is that it’s okay to be undeclared, and there are lots of
resources on campus there’s a lot of people that want to see you succeed and
we will do whatever we can to get you to that place so thank you for joining us
today and have a great day bye! that’s a Le Moyne dolphin good often