Name Brand Colleges vs. Small Private Schools
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wants to talk about her experience of trying to small private school six
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schools but it’s the kind of schools actually
ended up being more improvement in the state school because they offered really
great merit scholarships and so on but this is an incriminating
acceptance hereof have offered me really giving in
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never heard of and and adjustment iran it is like why a m dad quote-unquote uh…
name-brand schools can’t seem to be very thinly smaller
schools they may be interested in academic cleaning up and we have been a
mark there okay so first word of advice i would get
sick they respond depending on your major right now if you’re at gonna be a
lawyer at some point or if you’re gonna be a a doctor you want but in that
school uh… that name-brand universities do
matter they do unfortunately all depends on
what your majors determination in something like journalism uh… if you’re majoring in any type of
liberal arts to be honest with you i just don’t pay attention will be renting
it doesn’t matter how tall ok isle of the research is doing because she
realized that the state schools are actually more expensive than the small
private schools because these private schools offer better financial aid
packaging so she’s doing her research she’s off to a great start and also the
most important thing to keep in mind is at the university is accredited ok some
private universities especially small ones uh… might tracker uh… hide the
fact that they’re not accredited engine fin’lly don’t want to get a decree from
anon accredited schools comeback university maybe yeah so just be careful
with that but so far it seems like she’s doing really great research which is off
to a good start that’s pretty amazing actually riches she’s done so much i remember when i was
getting ready for college i think i ever really thought about how
much it cost i wasn’t really find instances schools in general but i didn’t think about that i was
actually affected by it the sort of pressure that she is getting
for friends i find it was accepted to its cool in boston and then you well uh… which would’ve been awesome
because my year was gonna be the first year they were allowing men into the
school was an all-women’s school before then feminine pack away end up going
because they didn’t have the computer programming uh… program which is why one of the
time bail and i can tell i’m did extensive research when he came to you
tonight dapat leading up to the but you know then boston it would be awesome it also you see a mentioned if you’re
going to law school or something like that and that is where your where you go it also matters what you
plan to do even more specifically yeah i know from several friends taking off of
going to law school in texas if you want to do law in new york or
something like that are in l_a_ you need to go to an extremely big name
school or school in those cities but if you want to be a lawyer in texas you necessarily have to go you can go to
in a school in austin is going to stand it’s fine for that location so you need
to know head of time really right you’re gonna do not not just what
major waiting to do with a major that definitely anne allotted is kind of
predicting your own future which is very predictable is ethical and it’s very because who
knows what’s going to change and you know maybe you do know that small school for a lot
in texas and then you need like the manager james and you want to move to
california and then you can get a job as a lawyer in california who knows what his agenda here that we
know it was a darker than anything in life on these just have to be uh… i guess
prepared by get a good sense of you know where
your school ranks when it comes to a lot of the whole law school thing is a
completely different animal area and steve i was a lot better prepared uh… to are a lot more prepared to say
that talk about that but i think john delta personally true practice law in l_a_ and
you go to non-profit for law school butler practiced law in new york better endure from atlanta
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I'm more likely going to a liberal arts college. I didn't want to go to a big school because I don't think I would like the environment. Currently mt high school is 180 people. I definitely would not want to jump to 10,000. And also the only two super brand-name schools I applied to is Cornell and Brown.
brand colleges don't matter for med schools, its all about the gpa
Part II- Now for doctors, residency matters for your future plans.I have doc & lawyer friends/acquaintances that went to small schools who are now leading authorities in their fields. Why? Because that had a good foundation given by those small schools that helped all along the way. I went to a small school, Wake Forest University- undergraduate population was about 3000, but they had a 6 year law program, 3 years undergrad & 3 years law school + you are not just a # like in BIG big name schools
"Glenn Beck University" ?!?
I applied to O'Reilly Tech.
Ana is straight-up wrong. If you plan on getting higher education than just a Bachelor's, the school for undergrad does not matter that much. On the other hand, going to a large (well-funded) graduate school is almost necessary for the science field.
As a successful 25 year old businessman that has a degree and was a freshman mentor with a 95% success rate that got my students off A-probation. I would take Ana's advice with a grain of salt. I know successful lawyers who graduated from mid-level schools that have moped the floor with Yale and Harvard lawyers. I know kids who were millionaires before they got out of school, from mid level schools. It's all how much effort you put in the place it's not the place you are at. Get much experience
@RudeBoy9179 I know right. Kind of scary she is giving advice on these issues. She has it twisted. I would not advise that to any student.
LOL @ 1:58. John's expressions to small universities.
There are universities in the USA that are not accredited? Must be a 3rd world country.
if you really care about what you study, don't pay attention to the school, look at the professors teaching the subjects you really care about. because remember everybody lies, so don't trust advertisements or what a school says, because sometimes if you go deep into detail your just find out everything they said was bullshit
I got some really good merit scholarships for a state school
@SeriouslyPissedOff
SeriouslyPissedoff = butthurt much?
COLLEGE IS FOR SUCKERS! LOL enjoy your student DEBT!
@cheddyrod Thumbs this guys comment up, he is right.
if you are trying to get a bachelor's in a STEM field, you will want to go to a better/high funding and most of the time well known university rather than going to a small one… if you are in a science field, smaller schools will not be able to accommodate you with the demands of higher science courses, like high quality research exp, etc…
is college worth it?
@godthisisannoying i agree about the thumbnails, kinda just makes Ana look like a whore
@SeriouslyPissedOff
Hypocrite. Do you need your mommy and daddy to get you into college? Or are you going to bawwww about other students?
@yubbadubbadubba You make a good point, wish i remember the thing on smaller class sizes, since some classes you can be there but across the state and no one will notice, which makes learning many thing more difficult since it must be presented more universally.
@cheddyrod do for profit colleges come to mind?
People regardless of college name should just be PROACTIVE in looking for jobs.
@cheddyrod It can't hurt to be sure. Besides, people from other countries watch TYT.
@PolitcalIslam Thats pretty much untrue. If you go for science, math or engineering, pound for pound, our universities are better.
@cheddyrod yep, there are plenty of schools that are only accredited reginally. Say if you want to sit for the CPA exam, your credits ain't gonna count if it wasn't from a AACSB school.
@PolitcalIslam Interesting, not that many people are laughing at Steve Jobs…Didn't he go to Reed? It's a joke to think that any particular school is gong to make you successful in life.
@djhivesdotcom enjoy pushing carts for Walmart!
You can get a job at most fast food places even if you don't wash your hands after you shit.
Cool.
I started out at a small public college with less than 5K students and ended up transferring to a better-known state U. Biggest mistake of my life. Having small freshman classes rather than large lecture courses is such a luxury. Professors at the college were completely committed to undergraduate students, which isn't the priority for university professors.
There are pros and cons to both, but small colleges offer the best educational environment.
If you want to go to med school, does where you go to undergrad really matter??
@PolitcalIslam not true, i goto a no name univeristy and we have a ton of indians(some japanese as well) here for science/math related degrees at the undergraduate level. american universities have always out done europe with science and math, our highschools are significantly worse than theres though
Why did do such a close-up on Steve Oh's face? Haha.
@SeriouslyPissedOff
Looks like someone took a big shit in your cheerios tonight. Not my problem, so continue crying for others please
What I do not understand is why Americans would rather consider going to a no-name college in the US as opposed to a decent institution abroad? It's usually cheaper and better (in some cases).
I have an unrelated question; why do you call social sciences "liberal arts" in U.S.?
You can go to state schools for free if you know how to get government grants. The problem is most poor people have no idea how to get them, but if you apply there is about a 90% chance they will pay for all tuition. I've seen it first hand multiple times, you just need to know where to apply.
@rasnac During the middle ages, "the liberal arts" was a standard set of subjects for education, separated in two categories:
Trivium: Logic/dialectic, grammar, rhetoric
Quadrivium: Aritmethic, geometry, astronomy, music
The english/american category "Liberal arts" has stuck to trivium only, and is basically incorrect 😛 In europe, trivium was expanded and changed to humaniora (the more human studies) during the renaissance, because they were considered instrumental in developing man himself.
@rasnac As for the name itself, it was called so because they were important for free men.
DA FUUCKK
@cheddyrod Here one: mises academy.
Here another one: Tri-Valley University.
A third one: Tyndale Theological Seminary.
A fourth one: Bernelli University.
A fifth one: Bridgewater university.
I stop here…
i miss jayar
private schools are way better…
@mert828 me too.
@therrydicule
It doesn't surprise me for a moment that the Mises Academy is nonaccredited. Free Market cultists.
All I can say is ignore what everyone thinks/says about you. You know what you need to do, you got merit scholarships so your not gonna wind up in debt…you're on the right track, everyone else is blinded by their ignorance.
@ContractorTwobitz Even there, there are some accreditation from private "stuff", like the United World Colleges which is an NGO. They are no reasons to not find any valuable accreditation in their case because or they are an academy, or they are not.
However, they try to be a think tank, an academy, a free market cult, a totalitarian regime, and a pro-anarchy political party at the same time, so I'm not surprise it will fail.
@fadetobob A much fairer system than England. No wonder you guys (or at least your government) wants to split from us.
COLLEGE IS FOR LOSERS! Enjoy your student *DEBT* losers!
@djhivesdotcom i bet its better to leech of our parents isnt it in our basement.
@djhivesdotcom not all students use loans to pay for school. So far my grants and family help have been enough.
@gabygo15 same goes for premed too. you want great grades and a great mcat score. although I would say if you were going to grad school for something in the sciences then a big school could be useful as far as getting better research opportunities.
@MrQueso6191
FACT: most college gradutes ARE LIVING IN THIER MOMS BASEMENT jobless!! Reality check! College=worthless! Ask a college grad living at mums house unemployed..
@Umishiru
think twice.. college is a scam… youll see..
@djhivesdotcom Eh, whatever. Keep on hatin. Labor peon.
@Umishiru
slaving from 9-5 in a cubicle 6 days a week is where you are headed chump. Just remember that when YOU become the wage-slave 'labor peon', albeit with a college duh-gree! SUCKER!
@djhivesdotcom keep on talking labor peon.
I love Ana and John on TYT U. They have great chemistry reporting together, and I'm not saying chemistry like that, but they're just able to have these conversations about school and any other topic really nicely, everything just seems to flow so well.
I just graduated from college last year and still cant get a job in my field. I wont settle for some half-time job with no benefits; I worked hard for my degree and I want to start seeing the fruits of my labor.
However, I cant help but feel that College Degrees are becoming less and less important/useful here in the USA. My fellow graduates are all struggling to win jobs in their respective fields because there are so many people applying. Too many people with degrees + too few jobs = 🙁
USC!
@Umishiru
student debt! YOUR FUTURE! LOLOLOL!!!
What happened to thinking about the quality of the education you'll be receiving? Obviously it's also necessary to think about what college will cost and what advantages your degree will offer after you graduate. But am I the only one who was actually looking to get the best education possible when I applied to college? It's sad that all of the focus is on jobs and money when it should be about learning. A great education will pay off later when you're smarter and work harder than everyone else.
It does not matter if you want to be a doctor to go to a big name brand school. My father went to a small private school that was not well known and became a doctor and chairman of his department!
@djhivesdotcom How am I in student debt if my school is being paid for with everything but loans. Keep on responding like an unintelligent idiot. Maybe your just not reading my comments and just responding at the sight of my name. Maybe you public education failed you and you lack basic reading comprehension.
@lifefullofwords But isn't gong to be everyone. So for those who will ending with regular paying jobs, a school loan will kill them. I have already seen a neighbor lose his home over student debt.
@Umishiru
You will find out later Nimrod, when you are inside a 9-5 slave cubicle downtown. "public" and "education" are your life, not mine you worthless prole. Enjoy your duh-gree! Remember – I warned you!
@djhivesdotcom What is funny is you don't even know how college or degrees work, or about the work environment today. But you know, keep on attacking me. I am sure it gives you enjoyment out of the fail of a life you live now. You youtube trolls are so funny. You think going after a random person on the internet is going to somehow vindicate yourself. You need professional help. But wait didn't those professionals have to go to school first?
@djhivesdotcom Another thing, since you lack basic knowledge on some terminology, I guess you were kept from going to elementary, middle, and high school? What a sad person you are. Your only worth is being a labor mule.
@djhivesdotcom However, you bore me. So instead of wasting time talking to a moronic troll like you, I will just ignore you for now on. Good luck talking to a brick wall.
@Umishiru I'm not saying that people should just go into debt without a thought. I also know people who are really struggling to pay off their loans and have regrets about going into so much debt. I'm just suggesting that what's missing from the conversation is any real concern about the quality of the education itself. When TYTU discusses deciding where to go to college the focus is usually on how to do it cheaply. Obviously that's important but it's not the only thing that matters to everyone.
@lifefullofwords I agree this video just focuses on what is one of many issues in college.
@lifefullofwords And like Ana said, the girl is off to a start. People will forgone a quality education if it means a life in debt. People work to provide for themselves not to be someone's financial slave. The real talk should be about what are people actually pay for and how to make school cheaper without lowering the quality. Most of the time the increases in college education are pure greed based and not quality based.
@Umishiru Obviously a lot of people will choose to forgo a quality education so they can avoid debt. I'm just saying that not everyone approaches college in that matter and it would be nice if TYT U occasionally explored how to apply for college if you are primarily looking for a rigorous academic experience.
I would also like to see more focus on lowering cost while raising quality. But that would require engaging in what makes education itself valuable and not just discussing its cost.
@lifefullofwords But you can not get mad at the girl watching out for her finical future. Its because I have done so myself that unlike many of my classmates, I have avoided taking out a single loan. What also makes throwing prices to the wind and going by education quality is the current generation of American politicians who want to make students pay for loans while in college or just cut off financial aid altogether. People are more money conscious and I do not blame them.
@lifefullofwords Why should someone destroy their financial future over perceived quality education. Its people throwing money to the wind that got America in this recession mess anyway.
@lifefullofwords I tell you what. I like you as a poster. You don't respond like a retarded walmart worker who had a bad day at work. Once I find my cable to my camera or get a video camera, I will submit a video about Quality vs Price. Remember TYU talks about what is submitted by people, so maybe there are more price videos being submitted than there are ones about quality.
COLLEGE IS FOR MORANS! PERIOD!
what about Civil Engineering?
@djhivesdotcom learn to spell Moron before calling someone a Moron..haha..college is for the 1 % !
@alienkishorekumar
You are a MORAN, MORAN! Spell this: "COLLEGE DEBT"
Good advice.
All I'd add is never take a "new" course. If it was put together that year or even a couple years before forget about it.
Find out how many grads get jobs before you pick a course. If the course does not have any graduates yet then it has nothing to back up it's validity.
Amazing? Really? Overused John. 😛
Anna, if you want to go to law school, it doesn't matter where you go for undergrad, so long as you do well on the LSAT and get a high GPA. Both of my parents went to top 10 law schools, and while many of their classmates graduated from the Ivies or state flagships, there were plenty that went to small state schools (think Chico State) or no-name liberal arts colleges.
I love it how the US is all wet about ivy league law schools. As if they would stand for a good education in principe. I have seen hundreds of civil law jurists from Switzerland and Germany killling common law lawyers in negotiations and legal disputes because they learned for years and years how to interpret and apply legal codes and statutes. Simply writing "a fortiori" and quoting Mr. Poop v. Fatguy Corp. isn't gonna do it, guys.
Even with going to medical school, Anna, your college's reputation only matters insofar as the college has a good reputation WITHIN ACADEMIA. It doesn't matter a bit what random people know about your college, but medical schools do recognize the names of good colleges that happen to be small liberal arts colleges. My small, liberal arts college is known by very few people, but has an extremely strong premed program and people readily get accepted to very good medical schools here.
what do you think of swarthmore's pre-med program
Are you guys refering to name brand school for college or undergraduate school? Cause I've heard that the undergraduate school doesn't matter as long as you can get into a good graduate program. I'm curious to see what you guys think about name brand undergrad vs. name brand grad. Cause if you get into too much debt in undergrad, you are screwed for the rest of you life
I've heard good things. I don't go there so I can't tell you with certainty but I have heard good things.
I go to Muhlenberg if that helps.
Enjoy *UNEMPLOYMENT* losers!
I went to a private college for 2 years and ended up with $10k of debt. I got the fuck out of there and went to a state university. Thank god I didn't keep going to that expensive school.
The advise that you need to attend a "big name school" to get into a top law school is wrong. Law schools, even top law schools, don't care where you went for undergrad. They care about GPA and LSAT score. These are the most important.
It is true that if you want to get a good paying job as a lawyer, you must have graduated from a top law program. But this is different from being admitted into that law program.
If you don't believe me, visit the top-law-schools[dot]com forum.
I thought they meant that you needed to go to a top law school to get a good law job. I don't think they were talking about getting into law school.
Can you make a video about law school and what to do before in terms of choosing a college and later the law school itself ? How to prepare (if and international student)? Thank you in advance for your advice;)
Same thing happened to me. I'm going to Haverford college (small private school) and everyone confuses it with Harvard. -__-
I still don't even know what advice this gave because she asked why people give her a hard time for small schools and they are just talking about law :/?
What about Cal?
No name =No job
Name brand is largely marketing for the school so they can charge top dollar. Learning depends on the person some people can get through a brand name school and have learnt very little others go to another school less known and they just soak everything up and thrive as they love to learn these people are inspired and they will be hired every time above someone with a name brand whom is less motivated always. I also know from my years in working in several sectors there are many no nonsense people whom hire whom look at the skill set, the aptitude will this person perform, be happy here, do they have experience. People without degrees get hired for a post even asking for a degree as they are highly skilled and diligent workers. Think about it if a busy manager a no BS one wants stuff done well they look at the skills first, including soft skills like time management, ability to multitask, whether the person has a good work/life balance skills as this adds to their well being which contributes to their performance.
There are some managers with low self esteem whom wish to hire people whom do not perform well so they don't have to then be successful and grow their own skills ect… So they hire people whom are not well suited for the job. The name of the school for high performing companies is very secondary, it is the person and their overall character/skills/aptitude/ self esteem ect.. which matters they want to excel as a company.
The name brand ones are actually better it's just your getting more for your money when going to a small one. I mean I'm not going to my hometown school and it's a name brand.
I also forgot to mention that private schools don't always have certified teachers and or standards which could make you not have all the materials you need.
Top name brand schools matter if you plan on working in a different state
I went to Dartmouth and it’s actually pretty good, the only thing is the debt. I still have 20,000$ debt now. I got my job as an astronomer working at a small university and doing podcasts.
Small private schools are the wave