Border apprehensions hit lowest level since March, USCIS credits Trump

Border apprehensions hit lowest level since March, USCIS credits Trump

August 15, 2019 100 By Stanley Isaacs


BRIAN: PROGRESS AT THE BORDER AS APPREHENSIONS DROP FOR THE SECOND STRAIGHT MONTH. AINSLEY: CUSTOMS AND BORDER PROTECTION IN JULY THEY ENCOUNTERED 82,000 PEOPLE ALONG THE U.S. MEXICO BORDER. THAT’S A DROP FROM 21% FROM THE MONTH BEFORE. THE OFFICIALS ARE CREDITING MEXICO FOR HELPING WITH THE CRACKDOWN ON ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. PETE: JOINING US NOW ACTING DIRECTOR OF CITIZENSHIP AND IMMIGRATION SERVICES KEN CUCCINELLI. KEN, THANKS FOR BEING HERE THIS MORNING. APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.>>MY PLEASURE. PETE: PUT THOSE NUMBERS IN CONTEXT FOR US. THEY STILL SEEM HIGH FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE. WHAT DO YOU GIVE CREDIT TO THE DROP FOR?>>WELL, FIRST OF ALL, THIS DROP ASK A RESULT OF PRESIDENT TRUMP KEEPING HIS PROMISES ON IMMIGRATION UNFORTUNATELY HE HASN’T GOTTEN HELP FROM CONGRESS IN DOING THAT AS WE HAVE BEEN REQUESTING FOR SOME TIME NOW. HE CONTINUES TO USE EVERY TOOL IN THE TOOLBOX AND YOU MENTION MEXICO. THIS PRESIDENT HAS DEALT WITH MEXICO IN A WAY COMPLETELY DIFFERENT FROM ANY OF HIS PREDECESSORS REPUBLICAN OR DEMOCRAT. AND HE HAS SUCCEEDED. WE ARE GETTING COOPERATION FROM MEXICO THAT WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN BEFORE. THEY ARE PATROLLING THEIR OWN SOUTHERN BORDER MORE VIGOROUSLY THAN BEFORE. WE ALSO HAVE THE REMAIN IN MEXICO PROGRAM WHERE TENS OF THOUSANDS YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO HAVE COME ACROSS OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY HAVE HAD TO WAIT IN MEXICO FOR THEIR ASYLUM HEARINGS SO THEY DON’T GET RELEASED INTO THE INTERIOR OF THIS COUNTRY. SO PRESIDENT TRUMP’S DIFFERENT PATH OF DEALING WITH THIS IS SUCCEEDING. AND WE ALSO HOPE THAT WITH THE FIRST STEPS IN THE GUATEMALA COOPERATION AGREEMENT, MOVING THAT FORWARD AGAIN BECAUSE THE PRESIDENT HAS DEALT WITH THE NORTHERN TRIANGLE COUNTRIES DIFFERENTLY THAT THAT OFFERS MORE OPPORTUNITY TO KEEP REDUCING THESE NUMBERS. BRIAN: ALL RIGHT. SO THE NUMBERS ARE GOING DOWN BUT THEY ARE STILL EXTRAORDINARILY HIGH. BUT DO YOU NOTICE THE DEMOCRATIC DELEGATION WAS IN GUATEMALA YESTERDAY WHAT DO YOU HOPE THEY SEE OR HEAR? ARE YOU ENCOURAGED OR DISCOURAGED THAT THEY ARE THERE.>>I’M ALWAYS ENCOURAGED WHEN I SEE ATTEMPTS TO FIND FACTS AND TRUTH IN THIS DEBATE. AS YOU ALL KNOW AND HAVE YOU TALKED ABOUT IT ON YOUR SHOW, A LOT OF RHETORIC FLIES AROUND. BUT THERE ARE SOME BASIC FACTS THAT ARE HARD TO ESCAPE. AND YOU MENTIONED JUST WHILE THIS LAST MONTH’S NUMBERS ARE AN IMPROVEMENT, THEY ARE STILL CRISIS LEVEL. 82,000 PEOPLE COMING ACROSS THAT SOUTHERN BORDER EXCEEDS ANY MONTH FOR YEARS EXCEPT FOR THE LAST FOUR MONTHS. AND SO WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO. THINGS WE HAVE BEEN ASKING CONGRESS TO DO, INCLUDING THE CONGRESSMAN DOWN THERE IN THE NORTHERN TRIANGLE COUNTRIES, INCLUDING THE SPEAKER HERSELF. AND THEY HAVE TAKEN ZERO ACTION ON THIS STUFF. NOTHING. AND WE AREN’T TRULY GOING TO GET OUR ARMS AROUND THIS PROBLEM FOR THE LONG TERM UNTIL CONGRESS CLOSES SOME OF THOSE ASYLUM LOOPHOLES THAT WE HAVE BEEN ALL BUT BEGGING THEM TO DO. AINSLEY: KEN, WHAT ABOUT THIS NASHVILLE MAYOR. HIS NAME IS DAVID BRILEY. AND HE WAS BLASTING THE PRESIDENT FOR IMMIGRATION RAIDS IN HIS AREA. HE RELEASED A VIDEO ONLINE SPANISH LANGUAGE VIDEO HOW TO AVOID ICE. TELLING THEM NOT TO OPEN THE DOORS UNLESS AN AGENT HAS AN ORDER SIGNED BY A JUDGE. DON’T SIGN ANY PAPERS BEFORE SPEAKING TO A LAWYER, AND THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO REMAIN SILENT?>>WELL, WHEN WE HAVE GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS AIDING AND ABETTING PEOPLE IN VIOLATING OUR LAWS WE HAVE FALLEN TO A PRETTY BAD PLACE. IT ISN’T JUST THIS MAYOR. WE HAVE SEEN IT IN LOS ANGELES, IN ONE OF THE BIGGEST CITIES OF THE COUNTRY WE HAVE SEEN THIS SAME SORT OF BEHAVIOR. THE REALITY IS AND A LOT OF AMERICANS DON’T KNOW THIS OVER A MILLION PEOPLE HERE ILLEGALLY HAVE GONE ALL OVER THE DUE PROCESS PIPELINE. BELIEVE ME, WE PROVIDE A LOT OF DUE PROCESS FOR FOLKS AND STILL HAVE FEDERAL ORDERS FOR THEIR REMOVAL, AND THEY REFUSE TO OBEY THEM. SO, IF YOU ARE ICE, IF YOU ARE MATT AL BANS, THE ACTING DIRECTOR OF ICE, YOU HAVE ENORMOUS TASKS IN FRONT OF YOU JUST WITH PEOPLE ALREADY THROUGH THE COURT PROCESS, THE ADJUDICATION TO DETERMINE THEY SHOULDN’T BE HERE ANY LONGER. THERE IS A LOT OF PEOPLE WE NEED TO REMOVE. MAYOR’S LIKE THAT ONE IN TENNESSEE DON’T HELP. PETE: SPEAKING OF ENFORCING THE LAW AND REMOVAL, DOWN IN MISSISSIPPI THERE WAS A SERIES OF RAIDS ON POULTRY PROCESSING PLANTS. ULT MATILY 640 WORKERS DETAINED. WE JUST LEARNED THAT 300 OF WHICH WERE RELEASED. THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF SPIN AND HYPERBOLE ABOUT THESE ACTIONS. TELL US WHAT THE CONTEXT IS AND WHY THEY HAPPEN.>>WELL, FIRST OF ALL, ICE HAS DRAMATICALLY INCREASED THEIR ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS OVER THE LAST YEAR. THIS YEAR OVER THE LAST YEAR. LITERALLY 2, 3, 4, FIVE TIMES. AND THEN SOME. AND WHAT YOU SAW IN MISSISSIPPI WAS AN OPERATION INVOLVING SEVEN LOCATIONS WITH THREE EMPLOYERS WHO ICE’S INVESTIGATIONS DEMONSTRATED WERE BREAKING THE LAW BY HIRING ILLEGAL ALIENS INSTEAD OF AMERICAN CITIZENS. AND MIND YOU, MISSISSIPPI IS A HIGHER UNEMPLOYMENT RATE THAN THE REST OF THE COUNTRY. THIS IS NOT A SITUATION WHERE THERE IS NO ONE ELSE AVAILABLE. WE ALSO HAVE THE H 2 PROGRAM VISA PROGRAM FOR LEGALLY PRESENT ALIENS TO PARTICIPATE IN EMPLOYMENT. THAT ISN’T WHAT WAS HAPPENING HERE. THAT’S WHY ICE WAS BUSTING THESE FOLKS. AND THEY HAVE LITERALLY WERE USING HUNDREDS OF ILLEGALS TO DO THEIR WORK, TO BEAT OTHER PEOPLE IN THEIR BUSINESS. SO THEY WERE CHEATING HERE. AND THEY ARE BEING HELD ACCOUNTABLE NOW THANKS TO ICE. BRIAN: ALL RIGHT, KEN,